Transgender Community Care with Rocky Lane and Sarah Swofford | #40

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Rocky Lane and Sarah Swofford are an adorable activist power couple, and I loved talking to them for this episode. On their own they are a self-proclaimed black trans man (Rocky) and a fat, queer woman (Sarah), and together they are SwirlBabyTV.

I spoke with these dedicated LGBTQPIA+ community advocates about common misconceptions about trans people and cis-trans relationships, barriers to health and wellness for trans people, how to be a better ally if you're cisgender, and more. By openly sharing their personal stories and experiences, Rocky and Sarah provide a much needed educational opportunity for the rest of us.

We discussed:

  • What “cisgender” and “transgender” mean.
  • Who Rocky and Sarah are as individuals and how they came together as a couple.
  • Common misconceptions they've dealt with about being trans and being in a cis-trans relationship.
  • Inappropriate questions to ask trans individuals and people in cis-trans relationships.
  • The importance of doing your own research instead of expecting free emotional labor from trans people.
  • Barriers to health and wellness for the trans community.
  • The way that different marginalized identities intersect to create additional barriers.
  • How cis allies can best support the trans community.
  • The importance of social health in overall health and well-being.
  • How Sarah and Rocky each define health and wellness for themselves at this moment in their lives.

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This Episode is Part of the Health and Wellness Changemakers Series Sponsored by Superfit Hero

I am so grateful to be collaborating with the body-positive brand Superfit Hero to introduce you to these changemakers who are taking the health and wellness industry in a new direction. The series runs from episode #37 to episode #48, so be sure to catch them all. Superfit Hero is an inclusive activewear brand that aims to provide clothing for ultimate confidence, no matter your size or sport. And if you enjoyed the Superfit Hero Wellness Tip of the Week, be sure to check out the dozens of amazing coaches and trainers in Superfit Hero’s Body Positive Fitness Finder.

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Rocky stands in a dark suit with green tie next to Sarah who wears a deep green gown and a crown with long spikes in her flowing red hair

Rocky Lane (he/him) and Sarah Swofford (she/her) run an entertainment and lifestyle YouTube channel called SwirlBabyTV. The goal of SwirlBaby is to share their unconventional love story, educate their community on trans-cis relationships, and give a glimpse into the challenges and triumphs that exist in LGBTQPIA+ life. They are both dedicated community advocates who provide beauty and wellness services to all people and all bodies at a body-positive, mirrorless fitness studio in Austin, Texas, called Autonomy Movement. Outside of YouTube, you can catch up with Rocky and Sarah on their website, Instagram, and Facebook.

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